Status Meetings:2008-01-30:Agenda

Wed 30 Jan 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

• Camino 1.6b2
  • Released Friday to software update, Tuesday to the world
    • See this for the story behind the release; great work by all involved
  • Talkback (all 1.6b2 crashes—only 23 so far)
  • Need to make sure we're getting enough user coverage (i.e., more than 1.6a1)
• Camino 1.6b3
  • Start working on follow-ups from recent big landings
  • Need to land remaining two big features ASAP
  • Feature/l10n freeze is b3
  • What P1/P2 features won't make it?
  • What 10.5 UI integration fixes do we want?
    • Sam has a designer working on polishing several toolbar icons to look better on 10.5
      • Back, forward, reload, stop, home, print, view source, add bookmark, new tab, close tab, and history (main toolbar); Privacy, history (same as main toolbar), tabs, and downloads (prefs)
    • Need call for designers to get mockups for 10.5 tab/bookmark bar refresh
  • please help out with any nib/strings bugs
  • Watch changes to perf when landing nibs
• Camino 1.6
  • Scoping
    • Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3)

      Patch up for one of two remaining AS follow-ups we really want (peeja)

    • swupdate: only minor stuff left, but starting to find new bugs with a1/b1->b2 updates

      Ts regression Bug 405542), appcast script (Bug 401474), testing via b2

    • jeff has been poking the tab dragging code

      waiting on review from murph

    • murph should have a solution to fully establish a working key-view loop throughout the browser window

      following-up on search bugs

    • ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja

      in sr queue (smorgan); will need to file exec stuff for later

    • breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers); smorgan was going to write the reporter

      updates?

• Camino 1.5.5/Camino 1.5.4
  • Next Gecko release scheduled for 5 Feb.
  • All Camino 1.5.5 bugs (save relnotes) landed; hope to build this afternoon for RC testing
  • Talkback for 1.5.4
    • topcrasher (#1, #2, and #6) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
    • Flash is #3
    • Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core Bug 349463) is #4 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
    • #5 is assorted 0xfffeff18 crashes (crashing deep in Apple code, various Kits, Frameworks and Toolboxes)
  • Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
• Tinderboxen
  • no new news on binus or maya?
  • ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); mini-mayaTrunk will go to the colo after Christmas(?)
  • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
  • we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)
• Dev docs
  • Chris got another round of comments on the Development:Third-Party_prefPanes docs; still some issues with the sample code
  • Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of
    • Calling private APIs
    • Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features

    Add here; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help

• Weekly Bugs and Queues update
  • Slower pace this week, but still churning through. The sr queue is mostly Stuart; should we switch any of the sr requests over to help relieve the burden (also let him work on his own stuff)?

Specific bugs that need action

1.6b3pre

• Bug 408593 - Only check for the default browser once
  • Re-discuss, with mento's objections?
• Bug 413501 - Provide a one-per-version startup warning about problem hacks
• Bug 413910 - Enable "Prevent sites from changing, moving or resizing windows" by default
  • Any objections to doing this?
• Various toolbar spinner bugs

1.5.5

• nothing right now

Other (if there's time)

• 10.5 Visual UX
  • Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
  • Tab bar
  • Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
    • We have a designer working on polishing
  • App icon lines - Bug 402967

• UNCOs
  • Bug 376930 - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
    • Have we gotten any feedback on this, positive or negative?

• Trunk
  • Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
  • xpfe cleanup
    • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 1.6b3

• Blocking ? (12) [+1 since last week]
• Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (1) [+1 since last week]

Camino 1.6

• Bugs targeted at 1.6 (27) [unchanged]
• Blocking ? (7) [+1 since last week] (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation)
• Blocking + (1) [unchanged] (but P1 bugs—currently just tab dragging—are blocking)
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
• Bugs without target (557) [+4 since last week]

• Bugs fixed since last meeting (16) [-12 since last week] (6 were 1.6-targeted, 4 were regressions from recent 1.6 fixes, 1 was website, 1 was 1.5.5-only)

Queues

• Review (10) [+2 since last week]
• Superreview (5) [+3 since last week]