Status Meetings:2008-01-23:Agenda

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Wed 23 Jan 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 1.6b2
    • Released Friday to software update, Tuesday to the world
      • See this for the story behind the release; great work by all involved
    • Talkback (all 1.6b2 crashes—only 7 so far)
    • Need to make sure we're getting more user coverage
  • Camino 1.6b3
    • Start working on follow-ups from recent big landings
    • Need to land remaining two big features ASAP
    • Feature/l10n freeze is b3
    • What P1/P2 features won't make it?
    • What 10.5 UI integration fixes do we want?
      • Need call for designers to get mockups for 10.5 tab/bookmark bar refresh
    • please help out with any nib/strings bugs
    • Watch changes to perf when landing nibs
  • Camino 1.6
    • Scoping
      • Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3)
        Patch up for one of two remaining AS follow-ups we really want (peeja)
      • swupdate: only minor stuff left, but starting to find new bugs with a1/b1->b2 updates
        Ts regression Bug 405542), appcast script (Bug 401474), testing via b2
      • jeff has been poking the tab dragging code
        new patch posted Tues
      • batwood's multiple accounts patch (finally!) landed
        starting to file follow-ups; batwood's time is limited near-term
      • murph should have a solution to fully establish a working key-view loop throughout the browser window
        following-up on search bugs
      • ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja
        in sr queue (smorgan); will need to file exec stuff for later
      • symbol-stripping bug
        landed Tuesday; today's nightlies should be good. switching to gcc4/10.3.9 for ppc?
      • breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers); smorgan was going to write the reporter
  • Camino 1.5.5/Camino 1.5.4
    • Next Gecko release scheduled for 5 Feb. We need to push some crash fixes with it (close tabs, quit; Trash button crashes); ardissone will try to start triage/testing/landing this week
    • Talkback for 1.5.4
      • topcrasher (#1, #2, and #8) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
        • The change that caused it landed on the MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH one month before we spun 1.5.4 RC build. Are we not getting enough testing of the branch?
      • Flash is #3
      • Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core Bug 349463) is #4 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
      • #5 is assorted libobjc crashes
    • Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
  • Tinderboxen
    • no new news on binus or maya?
    • ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); mini-mayaTrunk will go to the colo after Christmas(?)
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
    • we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)
  • Dev docs
    • Chris got another round of comments on the Development:Third-Party_prefPanes docs; still some issues with the sample code
    • Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of
      • Calling private APIs
      • Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features
      Add here; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • Another stellar week of bug-fixing and queue management, but please keep eye on follow-up bugs (and reviews for them).

Specific bugs that need action


  • Bug 408593 - Only check for the default browser once
    • Re-discuss, with mento's objections?
  • Bug 413501 - Provide a one-per-version startup warning about problem hacks
  • Bug 371895 - Flashblock whitelist - has patch, been rotting since October -- what's the holdup?


  • nothing right now

Other (if there's time)

  • UNCOs
    • Bug 376930 - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
      • Need to find a way to "promote" this as an area we'd like user feedback on in 1.6a1 (we note this as a feature on the preview site)
  • Trunk
    • Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
    • xpfe cleanup
      • see older Agendas if you're interested


Camino 1.6b3

Camino 1.6