Status Meetings:2008-02-06:Agenda

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Wed 06 Feb 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 1.6b2
    • Talkback (all 1.6b2 crashes—only 33 so far, +10 since last week)
    • Need to make sure we're getting enough user coverage (i.e., more than 1.6a1)
  • Camino 1.6b3
    • Start working on follow-ups from recent big landings
    • Need to land remaining two big features ASAP
    • Feature/l10n freeze is b3
    • What P1/P2 features won't make it?
    • What 10.5 UI integration fixes do we want?
      • Sam has a designer working on polishing several toolbar icons to look better on 10.5
        • Back, forward, reload, stop, home, print, view source, add bookmark, new tab, close tab, and history (main toolbar); Privacy, history (same as main toolbar), tabs, and downloads (prefs)
          • Designer doesn't like green-on-green for bookmarks; any change in bookmark color would require changing bookmark icon, tab group icon, show manager, and hide manager as well
      • Need call for designers to get mockups for 10.5 tab/bookmark bar refresh
    • please help out with any nib/strings bugs
    • Watch changes to perf when landing nibs
  • Camino 1.6
    • Scoping
      • Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3)
        Patches up for both remaining AS follow-ups we really want (peeja); "close tab" waiting for sr, "bookmarks eating" needs new patch then sr
      • swupdate: only minor stuff left, but starting to find new bugs with a1/b1->b2 updates
        Ts regression Bug 405542), appcast script (Bug 401474), testing via b2
      • jeff has been poking the tab dragging code
        new patch coming?
      • murph should have a solution to fully establish a working key-view loop throughout the browser window
        following-up on search bugs
      • ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja
        re-enabled last night, but unify still barfing on the compiled script file; filed bugs on exec'ing (Bug 415319) and bigger icons
      • breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers); smorgan was going to write the reporter
  • Camino 1.5.5/Camino 1.5.4
    • Next Gecko release scheduled for tomorrow.
    • All Camino 1.5.5 bugs (save relnotes) landed; hope to build this afternoon(?) for RC testing
    • Talkback for 1.5.4
      • topcrasher (#1, #2, and #5) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
      • Flash is #3
      • Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core Bug 349463) is #4 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch, waiting for sr for 2.5 months :( so far)
    • Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
  • Tinderboxen
    • no new news on binus or maya?
    • ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); mini-mayaTrunk will go to the colo after Christmas(?)
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
    • we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)
  • Dev docs
    • Still some issues with the sample code and/or nib for the sample prefPane
    • Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of
      • Calling private APIs
      • Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features
      Add here; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • Slowly whittling 1.6 bugs down, but a number of bugs remain waiting in the r queue.

Specific bugs that need action


  • Bug 408593 - Only check for the default browser once
    • Re-discuss, with mento's objections?
  • Bug 413910 - Enable "Prevent sites from changing, moving or resizing windows" by default
    • Should we land on branch (or just trunk)? It'll be "easy" to revert if needed; see comment 5-6.
  • Various toolbar spinner bugs
  • Bug 376930 (UNCO) - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
    • Have we gotten any feedback on this, positive or negative? Should we just WONTFIX?


  • nothing right now

Other (if there's time)

  • Trunk
    • Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
    • xpfe cleanup
      • see older Agendas if you're interested


Camino 1.6b3

Camino 1.6