Status Meetings:2010-11-03:Agenda

Wed 3 Nov 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

Current Release

• Camino 2.0.5
  • Released last Tuesday
  • Aside from new JEP (Bug 607678), haven't heard of any real issues
    • julian complained about autocomplete not working, but wasn't around for troubleshooting
  • flash-check having some early positive effect, says smorgan
    • Last week: "So this is not very clean data, but: for Camino 2.0 users visiting cb.o, on Monday Flash 10.1r85 was #2 with 30%. Yesterday it was #1 with 36%. Today, so far, it's 39%"
      Flash 10.0->10.1 upgrades: "The old #1 and new #2 is 10.0r45"
    • Also heard some comments about it in the forum and on twitter
  • Breakpad topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 1504 (79.39%) (currently running lower than 2.0.4, assuming 2x) --> (Also: topcrashers by URL)
    • Top sites: facebook, caminobrowser.org, google, youtube, AOL, gmail
      • cbo is mostly assorted font stuff, assorted layout stuff, 1 KBL
    • KeychainBrowserListener is top crash; Flash 10.1 crashes still slightly outrunning Flash 10.0 crashes
    • #1 is objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d / objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%fillDOMWindow:%5d (14%) - Bug 512730
    • #2 is FlashPlayer-10.6 / FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5 (10%)
    • #3 is Flash%20Player (10%)
    • #4 is objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d / libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7 / libobjc.A.dylib@0x5edb (unknown bug) (4%)
    • #5 is objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d / AppKit@0x6412c (unknown bug) (2%)
    • #6 is pthread_mutex_lock (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (2%)
    • #7 is CFQSortArray (related to appshell/runloop) (1%)
    • #7 is gmtsub (libSystem.B; related to libcrypto+Flash) (1%)
    • #9 is _objc_error (unknown bug) (1%)
    • #10 is objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)
  • For some reason, lots of "corrupt" stacks with -[BrowserWrapper removeTransientBar:display:] showing up below _start and start!
  • Also seeing a lot more OS libraries not being resymbolized, even when the reported build IDs match :/

Other Releases

• Camino 1.6.11
  • Released 33 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
  • Google Docs spreadsheet limits makes analysis difficult any more
• Camino 2.0.6
  • KeychainBrowserListener - Stuart will return after a1
  • Security fixes
  • Bug 569258 - bookmarks metadata madness - Stuart has partial patch
  • Bug 604582 - completed downloads with no content-length appear broken - might want to take if it seems safe
  • Bug 532186 - can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list - hendy's been offline
  • Death-by-Flash-logging Bug 541897; philippe found that drawing models did cause this
  • Have new "Profile Startup" bug (Bug 556428) covering about year+ of Ts regressions
• Camino 2.1
  • Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
  • autocomplete perf - Stuart landing pieces and posting new WIPs; generally better, but also uncovering bugs in history
  • Gecko 1.9.2 update - (tracking for bugs+issues; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
    • 10.4 Ts regression due to Gecko: Bug 604455 - masayuki has alternate fix for us to test
    • Gecko focus/blackholes - new meta filed (Bug 600483); more bugs appearing: Bug 576821, Bug 577059, Bug 600187, Bug 581491
    • Nightly builds - Bug 560323 tracking some nightly-related things still needing to be finalized, but nothing critical
    • No progress on patch-free 10.6 building (mozsqlite+friends) in a long time; WierdAl put up a non-working patch last week-end
  • Alpha 1 - any clearer on dates?
• Gecko 2.0 fka 1.9.3 - on ice

Other Items

• Tinderboxen
• Server migration
  • Coming sometime this month; will hopefully unblock most of the current pressing website bugs
• AppZapper
  • Sam mailed them again list week
• Weekly Bugs and Queues update
  • r/sr queues both in dire shape; almost no movement in the past two weeks in part due to stuck queues
  • pinged pink, hendy, and ilya about queues, murph about gestures

Specific bugs that need action

• Upgrade to Flashblock 1.5.14 (Bug 604477) is going to require some small code changes
• New "Tips for New Reviewers" section of the Development:Reviewing page - all reviewers welcome to edit, comment in Bug 604584, or ping ardissone to help improve the document, especially "What to Look For" section
• Need hints from smorgan/murph on Bug 585535 - getting diagnostic URL into SafeBrowsingAboutModule
• Adding a "show cert" button to the technical details of about:certerror needs lots of plumbing
• Need test code for 10.5 AppKit menu changes (Cmd-=, alternates/NSEvents)

• CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

Other bugs (if there's time)

• 10.5 Visual UX
  • App icon lines - Bug 402967
• UNCOs
  • Bug 549280 - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
  • Bug 458427 - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
  • Bug 404515 - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page (moved to Core, might be coming back)
  • Bug 386574 - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
  • Bug 381295 - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

Queries

Camino 2.1a1

• Blocking ? (3) [unchanged since last week]
• Blocking + (0) [unchanged since last week]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged since last week]

Camino 2.1

• Bugs targeted at 2.1 (21) [unchanged since last meeting] has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now
• Blocking ? (27) [+1 since last meeting]
• Blocking + (1) [unchanged since last week]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged since last week]

• Bugs without target (772) [+6 since last meeting] need to ready another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCOs

• Bugs fixed since last meeting (1) [+6 since last week] (0 were 2.1-targeted; 1 was website)

Queues

• Review (16) [unchanged since last week] a few really old; cl owes ilya a review from Jan; 2 are Reviewing Tips docs, but most are current
• Superreview (9) [+2 since last week] one is Reviewing Tips docs