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[4:31pm] ardissone|away: ss or mento or smorgan: can you guys get a list of "things we might need to test due to [4:31pm] mento: run a bunch of js<br>

ardissone, froodian, kreeger, mento, murph, smorgan, ss * pink is on vacation this week; mento's the go-to for sr

ardissone, cl, froodian, kreeger, mento, murph, pinkerton, smorgan, ss, Wevah ** Need reports from jay, mento/ss will remind

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...e) font Preferences changes don't select the proper font names '''[needs r mento][likely not going to make 1.0.3]''' '''checked in by mento on CAMINO_1_0_3_MINIBRANCH, 5 Sept PM EDT'''

ardissone, froodian, jcraig, kreeger, mento, murph, pinkerton, smorgan, ss ** mento thinks part of pawn's prob is a leak in a long-running process (swap eats u

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12:07 <@ardissone|food> ss was supposed to have sspitzer test mento's patch 12:14 <@ardissone|food> mento: do you have any cycles to help the sr queue?

[12:03pm] mento was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:04pm] mento: but, like i told you, i wouldn't be here

[12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: are we expecting pink and/or mento? [12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: mento's been around, since he "reviewed" my bustage fix

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[12:04pm] ardissone|foraging: do we expect pink/mento? [12:10pm] mento joined the chat room.

12:07 <@ss> mento: How's the xpt audit? 12:10 <@ss> That's mento as well. ;)

[12:09pm] mento: froodian: i'm here. [12:14pm] froodian: mento: ^^

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ardissone, cl, froodian, mento, murph, pinkerton, smorgan *** mento will look at this

mento will mini-branch and spin an RC this evening. l10n is looking good (6-10 of ...roodian|froodian]] did the [needs checkin] list this morning; [[User:mento|mento]] should do relnotes.

[12:00pm] mento: yo yo yo [12:01pm] mento: looks sans from my vantage point

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****: ''patch, nib, images awaiting r/sr ['''mento''']'' ...ing build-foo ['''mento'''] and project kicking once build-foo is done ['''mento/ardissone''']; patch has sr (minor nits)''

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[12:14pm] froodian: pawn died, but mento resurrected it, so that's good [12:16pm] froodian: most of the bugs need pink or mento...

*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento'''] *: ''mento's got a patch here; what's next''

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...ed to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2007-06-06:Agenda" by mento. [12:07pm] mento: got your back

* [[Releases:Branch_Tag_Build_Release|Branch Tag Build Release]], the how-to-mento handbook, has some useful information about less common tinderbox procedure

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*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento'''] *: smorgan is going to land what he has + mento's comments; [[Development:Planning:dmg License Localization]] tracks remain

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*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento'''] *: is mento going to do this?

ardissone, delliott, kreeger, mento, murph, pinkerton, smorgan, _Tsk_

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09:14 <@ss> pinkerton, mento: That's for you. 09:15 <@mento> what's wrong with alternates?

12:01 <@ss> So mento has said either this afternoon or tomorrow. 12:01 <@mento> that's right

*** mento finally got access Tues AM and had to fix other tbox problems ...s/2006/10/13/mozilla-accessibility-summit#other Moz a11y summit], pink and mento still swamped

12:09 <@ardissone|food> mento knows all the gory details; i only know some 12:09 <@ss> mento: Care to speak on it?

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[12:08pm] mento: how long will it take to change the numbers on the current site? [12:08pm] ss: mento: An hour or two, max.

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...:45pm] mento: and the source tree<br>[5:45pm] mento: and build<br>[5:45pm] mento: no need for a whole system reinstall *: [5:40pm] mento: the mac-specific questions on there - most of the errors there are no long

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12:01 <@mento> is pinolo coming? 12:03 <@mento> ok. no minibranch, just a tag on 1_8, right?

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12:04 <@mento> status: tinderboxen are green 12:04 <@mento> thanks, stuart

ardissone, froodian, mento, murph, pinkerton, smorgan

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[12:03pm] ardissone: should we wait a couple for mento? [12:14pm] mento joined the chat room.

[12:15pm] ardissone|food: builds are spun and mento staged them yesterday [12:32pm] ardissone|food: mento is working with igor some on trying to figure things out, since whatever th

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12:14 <@ss> And... in lieu of waiting on m.o, mento's bumping the SDK up on the tinderbox and in 12:18 -!- mento has joined #camino-mtg

12:01 -!- mento has joined #camino-mtg 12:01 <@mento> noon already?

[12:16pm] <cl> mento: I was told to be sure to ping you about making sure to pull the relnotes a [12:28pm] <cl> a lot of what's in there now is mento

*[[User:mento|mento]] has like seven Macs or something and can run releases as old as 10.1.

[12:09pm] ardissone|foraging: like reviewing find bar and mento's 10 patches? [12:12pm] mento joined the chat room.

[12:02pm] ardissone|food: no mento or sam, either ;( [12:19pm] mento joined the chat room.

[11:57am] cl: no pink or mento? [12:14pm] mento joined the chat room.

[12:32pm] mento joined the chat room. [12:32pm] ardissone|feeding: mento!

[12:01pm] ardissone|away: let's see if smorgan and mento show up soonish [12:17pm] ardissone|away: that select fix is in mento's sr queue; be good to have that for 1.6 final

[12:01pm] ardissone|food: are we expecting mento? [12:01pm] mento joined the chat room.

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[12:03pm] ardissone|foraging: are we expecting mento? [12:06pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, let's start, and if mento comes, we can backfill him

[12:09pm] ardissone|foraging: i assumed mento would be here, since he was already working on striptease [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: swupdate: we're starting to find new bugs and mento and smorgan are working through them

[12:01pm] ardissone: let's give mento a couple [12:06pm] ardissone: hopefully mento shows

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***: mento left extensive sr comments *** ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja

[11:59am] ardissone: let's see if mento comes [12:02pm] mento joined the chat room.

[12:19pm] ardissone|food: mento: 1.0.6 passed QA by cl on 10.2 [12:19pm] mento: ok, let's do a release!

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[12:14pm] ardissone: wonders if smorgan, mento or pink will appear [12:27pm] ardissone: but we can release 1.6.2 pending ss and mento's schedules

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12:05 <@mento> narrowly avoided foot-in-mouth disease there 12:05 * ardissone|food is never using a mento-ism again

*** need to see mento's schedule re: possibility breakpad for a1

[12:03pm] ardissone|foraging: we expecting mento? ...me any comments you might have on our prefpane dev docs, since smorgan and mento have already given it the once-over

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[12:23pm] ardissone: the other thing is we've been trying to catch mento between holidays for his final stamp on the relnotes and then the build stu [12:24pm] ss: mento has a bread truck factor of 1 and that's a problem.

ardissone, cl, mento, smfr, hwaara, delliott, hicks, marcello, froodian, ludo, Wevah, smichaud

...ch better. the last time, we did "fixed a bug in 1.1afoo" (at least until mento made us zap the "fixed a bug" part) --> ...http Auth realms on the same host. <!-- straight from the bug :p how did mento have us change http Auth before?)-->

[12:08pm] cl: regardless, he and mento are probably the two most likely candidates to fix that [12:11pm] ardissone|food: the other one is partially a question for mento and pinkerton

*** need to see mento's schedule re: possibility breakpad for a1

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***: multiple accounts up for sr=mento ***: needs review=peeja and review/mentoring=mento

****: ''awaiting r on build-foo ['''smorgan'''] and branch patch ['''mento''']'' ** mento kept sr queue moving last week; both queues lowest in recent months. "Simp

*** need to see mento's schedule re: possibility breakpad for a1

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[12:02pm] ardissone|food: still waiting on mento to hop over, too [12:04pm] mento joined the chat room.

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ss, pinkerton, mento, smorgan, kreeger, froodian, jeff, ludo, cl, peeja, hwaara, josh

** mento is doing breakpad ** All Camino bugs and the relnotes have landed; mento will spin soon

12:16 <@ardissone> we need a little bit from mento on flashblock build stuff 12:17 <@froodian> the next one is pawn, so mento

[12:03pm] ardissone: let's give mento a few again and then we'll start [12:19pm] mento joined the chat room.

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*** ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja *** breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers);

[12:03pm] ardissone|away: are we expecting pink or mento? [12:09pm] ardissone|away: depends on mento's schedule

...s right after version .8, and worked with great people like Samuel Sidler, mento, smfr, and pinkerton.

*** ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja *** breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers);

[12:02pm] ardissone|away: we expecting mento? [12:44pm] mento joined the chat room.

[12:02pm] mento: welcome pinkerton! [12:02pm] mento: introductions, introductions anyone?

09:25 <@ss|work> mento: This next one is mainly for yo. 09:25 <@mento> ss|work: build@mozilla.org

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12:08 <@ss> So now we're waiting on one more (right mento?) then we'll be ready with the English 12:08 <@mento> right

*** now failing to compile BWC at all; need mento for a path forward <!--** {{bug|389140}} gets us using the right theme files; needs r=mento

[12:02pm] smorgan: no pink, dunno about mento [12:06pm] mento joined the chat room.

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*:* '''''N.B.''' mento sez: the original Apple samples used “Accept” and “Reject,” for the

*** Delayed due to lack of access to the tinderbox for mento

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[12:14pm] cl: suggests mento and smorgan be unleashed on the relnotes at this point [12:15pm] froodian: let's do a little more polish, then post in the bug for mento to sr?

*** ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja *** breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers);

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[12:12pm] ardissone: smorgan: do you know if we expect pink or mento? [12:13pm] smorgan: I would guess no pink, but no idea about mento

09:23 <@ss|work> mento: It's targeted at you... ;) 09:25 < hwaara> I think only mento can review that, and the flag is set..

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[12:06pm] ardissone|foraging: no mento yet [12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: other than that, we're waiting on mento to find the final bugs in the relnotes and do spinning of a1

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[12:00pm] ardissone|nobugzilla: do we expect pink and/or mento today? [12:02pm] smorgan: not sure about mento

12:33 * froodian pings mento, so he knows we're discussing this 12:38 <@ardissone|food> mento or krmathis would remember

[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: so do we expect mento or smorgan?

** breakpad - can we lock smorgan and mento in a room next weekend? ** need mento to verify the <code>scp</code> commands for staging

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** Re-discuss, with mento's objections?

*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento''']

*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento''']

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12:06 < mento> will it remain on PDT when the rest of the country goes back to standard t 12:06 < mento> then 9am PT shall suffice. going once, going twice.

* mento

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** breakpad - can we lock smorgan and mento in a room next weekend? ** need mento to verify the <code>scp</code> commands for staging

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[12:00pm] ardissone|food: are we expecting pink or mento? [12:12pm] ardissone|food: we'd need mento to do hookup stuff, right?

** need mento to verify the <code>scp</code> commands for staging <!--** {{bug|389140}} gets us using the right theme files; needs r=mento

[12:10pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: pink? (or 90th-minute sr mento, even?) [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: go smorgan and mento!

[12:49pm] ardissone: mento's mail to me about it didn't seem terribly helpful, but i'll have to see wh ...ght or maybe tomorrow, we'll just have to live without it until we can get mento to debug

No resolution to the tarball issue as mento wasn't present.

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** Re-discuss, with mento's objections?

* mento

12:44 <@ss> There's a patch there now (thanks mento) 12:47 * pinkerton looks at mento's patch and wonders why that would have regressed

[12:09pm] ardissone: are we expecting pink or mento? [12:28pm] ardissone: when mento gets here, he should take a look

** Re-discuss, with mento's objections?

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** mento branched 1.5 off to CAMINO_1_5_BRANCH last week

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** mento should be spinning 1.6.2 today ...viewer and is already having "bitrot"/patch overlap problems. If you want mento, please inform him directly.

[12:14pm] mento: we're just bumping some strings around and promoting a nightly again, righ [12:15pm] mento: we don't need to do any docs for this or have a freeze

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12:25 <@froodian> mento

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ardissone, delliott, froodian, hwaara, kreeger, mento, murph, pinkerton, smorgan, ss

*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento''']

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** need some build-sys patches from mento yet, too

[12:03pm] ardissone: waits on mento to actually join [12:04pm] ardissone: wonders if mento took an early lunch

...r 24+ hrs ({{bug|385109}}); cb-x1 is now failing with the same error; need mento

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09:08 <@maxr> mento: are you able to do the minibranch today so we can get a build out? 09:09 < mento> maxr: it's highly likely

[12:37pm] ardissone: we're at the mercy of mento's schedule [12:38pm] ardissone: his schedule is typically slightly less bad than mento's

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[12:29pm] ardissone|away: do we know more about how long mento's "a few weeks off" was going to be?

* mento: breakpad integration

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[12:16pm] froodian: smorgan, mento?

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** mento is doing breakpad

** Week-long tree closure due to {{bug|386653}}; mento took the beating and fixed it

...ck; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || can we !clone mento and give this to him? :P ...t-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the bad news is that mento has no ideas about https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555885 (tes

*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento''']

*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento''']

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** mento is doing breakpad

[12:04pm] ss: We (mento) made the switch to the 10.3 SDK

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...rick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || (I did mail mento about the tests thing, but haven't heard anything from him; not sure if he

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[12:08pm] ardissone|food: no mento here yet; i sorta expected him [12:24pm] ardissone|food: mento has been working for the better part of every day on various issues

...firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || !clone mento!

...rdissone|foraging: in case you were under a rock yesterday, pink, smorgan, mento and co had a big release, so congrats (and a second flame-shield) to them

*: ''needs backout/fix that won't break firefox'' ['''mento''']

* Approval to land in cvs (if not using mozUpdate) - mento prefers landing source code instead of binary drops

[12:24pm] ardissone|away: hopefully mento will have time this afternoon to spin us

** mento spun [http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/camino/nightly/2008-05-12-11-1

** mento is doing breakpad (probably not for a1?)

...g in on code-complete; need to decide on the remaining ? noms and schedule mento

...g in on code-complete; need to decide on the remaining ? noms and schedule mento

...g in on code-complete; need to decide on the remaining ? noms and schedule mento

12:38 <@ss> The main issue is filed and mento has CCed the appropriate people. 12:45 <@pinkerton> for large things, mento, smfr, or i are still the right contact for now

...possible to build PPC with gcc 3.3/10.3.9 SDK - {{bug|401768}} (waiting on mento to dance with the new NSPR tag in client.mk)

...an]] will generate the signature ([[User:pinkerton|pink]] and [[User:mento|mento]] also have the key) ...an—and need to—do this at least the day before, and typically ardissone or mento files the bug when the bits are hot off the builder for plenty of lead time

...text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i'll try to poke mento and see if he can offer any insight, too, since i know he's not getting the

** mento is on fire! Sadly, this means our r queue is also growing again.

** Branched (special thanks to mento for all his help and insomnia, and MozIT for making cvs.m.o stop failing in

[12:15pm] ardissone: special thanks to mento (and his insomnia) for the help

...n: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i still haven't heard from mento about the orange, and i haven't yet had a chance to poke him to see if he a

** Built Mon evening after heroic last patch+review from smorgan and mento

[12:51pm] ardissone: too bad we can't steal mento to be aghast at the state of the Cocoa appshell

[12:09pm] ardissone: smorgan: any pink or mento expected?

** We cleared 20 bugs last week (mento and smorgan on fire); unfortunately, the most of the same 15 are still in t

* '''Build Config''': mento, ardissone, smorgan * Mark Mentovai [mento] is currently extremely busy and developers should look for alternative rev

*** breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers);

* [[Releases:Branch Tag Build Release]], the how-to-mento handbook.

[12:16pm] ardissone|away: mento: any idea what happened to pawn?

...ebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || maybe ask mento? ...; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || mento says "iffy" on 10.6

*** Tinderbox tests issue: {{bug|555885}} - mento has no idea :(

[12:56pm] ardissone: for that matter, !clone pinkerton and !clone mento

12:05 <@kreeger> - pink - mento

[1:00pm] ardissone: and then mento or i can spin end-of-week

...rtical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i also haven't had a chance to talk to mento yet about build system hacks

...y checking in Camino patches, nor, with some exceptions, will pinkerton or mento check in patches they have not written).

12:32 <@cl> pinkerton, mento, smfr probably need to fight that out :-p

mento also gives a pseudo-code explanation of how to guard and do runtime look-up

...e on the Camino wiki, in [[Releases:Branch Tag Build Release]] (the how-to-mento handbook).

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